The Leafs and HNIC really do suck

CBC commentator let go after authoring book

Tony Gallagher, The Province

Published: Friday, October 23, 2009

When somebody who is employed as a regular contributor on Hockey Night in Canada is suddenly fired after writing a book entitled Why The Leafs Suck: And How They Can Be Fixed, you can't help but wonder what's going with respect to the CBC's journalistic integrity.

General Manager Brian Burke uses his blackberry during a practice of the Toronto Maple Leafs at the MasterCard Centre for Hockey Excellence in Toronto Thursday, Oct. 15, 2009.

General Manager Brian Burke uses his blackberry during a practice of the Toronto Maple Leafs at the MasterCard Centre for Hockey Excellence in Toronto Thursday, Oct. 15, 2009.

Photograph by : National Post

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This is what happened to Al Strachan, who regularly appears on HNIC's "After 40 Minutes" on Saturdays, a segment where the goal is to break news and discuss newsworthy topics about and around the NHL or the sport of hockey.

Curiously enough, Strachan was there because he usually breaks the most news and was almost always the most controversial contributor, largely because he's well-connected and the league doesn't have some sort of hold on his job as it does directly or indirectly on at least one of the other regulars.

But far too shortly after the release of his new book, Strachan found himself gonged from the show, CBC executive director Scott Moore telling him that he was gone because he was identified on the cover of his book as being from Hockey Night in Canada.

Strachan, of course, had no control over this inclusion in the book as the publishers HarperCollins printed the cover and had already come to an agreement with HNIC as to how this concern will be handled. Moore did not return a call Thursday.

But because HNIC went ahead and knocked Strachan off anyway, there has been a mountain of speculation that this technicality was used to get him and that Moore is bowing to pressure from the Toronto Maple Leafs, the league or both to make such a move. While the truth may never be known, it most certainly looks bad and when things look bad, they often are bad, free speech clearly under duress these days from all manner of affronts.

The contents of the book are so amusing, it's most certainly clear to see why any number of people in the Leafs hierarchy might be upset at some of the things that have been written.

And while they may not be able to do much about that, they certainly weren't going to pass on the opportunity to make sure they didn't have to listen to them on Saturdays.

Given there is a withering chapter on Brian Burke in the book -- one that people who don't like Burke's style shouldn't miss -- he is being blamed for perhaps being the thrust behind this, largely because he's tried to exert pressure on reporters and columnists before. Further, he's tried to exert pressure on HNIC in the past to have Strachan removed from "After 40 Minutes" because of an incident he didn't like while he was GM in Vancouver. So it's hardly surprising that people would be pointing fingers at his media-managing ways.

But that analysis may not be fair to Burke. After all, there are lots of others who receive shots in the book, not the least of which are the likes of Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment president and CEO Richard Peddie and the company's second largest shareholder, Larry Tanenbaum, both of whom have been making most of the hockey-hiring decisions with the team recently.

Would they have picked up the phone? Could NHL commissioner Gary Bettman have taken the opportunity to pick up the phone? Doubtful, but the timing of this couldn't look worse.

We only need to look at what time Saturday's game at GM Place starts to see the extent to which the Leafs and HNIC work together and stroke each other's back. Not only will the early start time give HNIC a larger audience for the nationally televised game, it will give the Leafs a slight edge they might not have otherwise enjoyed by starting the game at 7 p.m. ET on their body clocks whereas otherwise it would have been 10 p.m. ET.

They call each other's tune and the impression one is left with until proven otherwise is that CBC has lost considerable integrity with this move.

As for the book, Strachan is a friend so there probably shouldn't be any comment. But the Montreal Gazette review was extremely flattering, and whether you love or hate the Leafs you should probably give it a look.

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Paublo
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 11:58 AM
Absolutely amazing, journalism truley is under attack. I used to believe that sports journalists were immuned because they critisize players and not corporations or politicians, but this has changed my view. The Leafs have been a bad team for some time, but now they are kicking dirt in the faces of their fans... the people who are mad their beloved team sucks.
JeffySize
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 12:37 PM
again tony, maybe you should call the 'wwaaahhhhmmmbullannceeee'.
CBC sucks and cannot be fixed
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 12:40 PM
HNIC is a shadow of its former self, TSN has taken over, and now petty crap and meddling like this? Boo, shame, go to hell CBC - the whole works...
Waaah wahh wahh
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 12:45 PM
Pathetic.... And the Leafs are still the richest hockey franchise. Jealousy and inferiority is the name of the game. As it was said before on here "bow to the hand that feeds." Hockey is a business, and the bottomline is what counts!!!
dgburke
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 01:04 PM
classless typical of the leafs and very disappointed in hnic
Frank
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 01:08 PM
An excellent read. Toronto really does have no respect for the rest of Canada. Why is this game on at 4 o'clock? Why did the Leafs virtually get no penalty for confirmed tampering? Why did the Leafs oppose Hamilton? Why did they oppose Vancouver 40 years ago coming in? This is a very selfish franchise.
Tony
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 01:11 PM
My Leafs are the best... slow start but but they'll finish strong. They'll make it to the Finals because the EAST sucks!
deplorable!
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 01:19 PM
The Toronto Maple Leafs, CBC and HNIC are sleazy bed-mates, all of the same totalitarian ideals. I haven't tuned in for the past couple of weeks - sick of their rubbish. Working on establishing another past-time and very much at peace doing so. Fight back, people! Hit 'em where it hurts most; there pocket-books.
Al
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 01:21 PM
All i gotta say is the leafs deserve burke. they'll both bring each other down further then they already are.
Who cares.....
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 01:44 PM
about the leafs and Burke. They are going to be in 30th place this season and still sell out every game. The only thing worse than this sad excuse for a franchsie is their equally sad fans that continue to pay the way for this embarrassement. Imagine, changing the time of the game to 4 on a Saturday to cater to Toronto. What about the time for workers to attend/watch the game in Vancouver? Now this is fair for all, isn't it? The only saving grace is that it won't matter what time the game is because for the Leafs to lose at 4 or at 7 is still loss number 7 for the season.
Dave
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 01:52 PM
Good Comments..the 4'oclock start says it all. To hell with season ticket holders who have work saturdays, what counts the most is the little darlings from the East need their beauty sleep. All other teams who come from the east have played at the 7 o'clock start time and Strach's book only bears witness to what is happening for far too long. CBC sports needs to show some guts, clean house and tell the Leafs and Bettman to go to hell and stand up for the viewers. I will be in my grave for 20years before this happens
Sean
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 01:54 PM
And no one mentions the 4 decades of child molestation at Maple Leaf Gardens.
dizgusted
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 02:00 PM
The clue is in the last paragraph where the writer declares his love for Strachan. Could it just be that CBC is sick of this attention junkie and his wild, unsubstantiated rumours? Strachan hates Burke for being called out as a liar on CBC - and he WAS lying, as usual. Glad to see the bum gone!
Why the time change?
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 02:16 PM
Who's watching this garbage excuse for a team/franchise anyway? Al Strachan was terrible with his made up rumours and personal attacks on the Hot Stove. He deserved to be fired years ago.
joe from calgary
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 02:16 PM
an afternoon delight for you all to enjoy......another example of mlse brainwash,criticize the leafs and your employment gets squashed. All Al strachan did was expose the truth,now burke just made himself look more like a goof. Thank you all my fellow readers. Remember my young readers,don't listen to your brainwashed leaf parents.Don't become a mlse parrot. Learn to think for yourselves and
@ Dizgusted
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 02:18 PM
Burke whines and cries all the time about reporters writing/reporting about unsubstantiated rumours. In fact, he sued Larry Brooks (NY Post) over unsubstantiated rumours. However, integrity seems to be a one way street to Burke. Where was the mea culpa when he reported on the Canucks Bieksa/Burrows offering? How about a "maybe I was wrong" about the Sedins being in play in 2008? Burke is just a little puppy dog; all bark and no bite. Enjoy the first round draft pick next June. Oh wait...
Andrew in BC
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 02:40 PM
Unbelievable...I have put in my comments to CBC about this decision, and I hope that all who read this do the same. I cannot believe the idiotic decisions which come out of HNIC these past years, from the hockey song, weak play by play by former players (kevin weekes for one), shutting up the Don, it just goes on and on. As a taxpayer who supports these guys, you have every right to let them know that Al is a lot more entertaining than the ass&*%$ mike milbury. At least Al knew what he was talking about but I am sure we will soon see him as an analyst on TSN, for they know what a true hockey mind is.
Waggie
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 02:48 PM
It's Leaf fans that are the joke. If you want a real team, boycott everything about the Leafs. Don't watch on TV, don't go to games, don't buy Leaf anything, write MLSE and express your feelings, organize a rally & suppport a Hamilton team and lastly, tell your kids why you are doing it. Get going !!!!
Anybody but the Leafs
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 03:00 PM
I hate the CBC but I hate Al Strachan more so who cares anyway. I'll watch HNIC when my team plays but otherwise I'll watch hockey on the other networks because the center of the universe really does exist in Toronto and the rest of us are irrelevant.
Leafs should be Fired
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 03:01 PM
This is a disgrace and shows just how much preferential treatment the embarassing joke of a team in Toronto gets. Al Strachan is one of the best journalists in this country. He is the only one in Toronto with the guts not too kiss Burke the Jerks old a*s. Scott Moore is the one who should be fired for pandering to sissies like Richard Peddie and Burke the Jerk. This pathetic wannabe lawyer comes to Canada, spends a fortune on no talent thugs, can't win a game to save his life and gets a Canadian journalist fired. This is more embarassing than the Leafs 0-82 season they are about to embark upon.
Sam Mallon
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 03:03 PM
Strachan doesn't always display any smarts but he doesn't deserve this type of punishment. Any team that takes their best rookie defenceman and puts him to play left wing when he shoots right needs some type of reprimand No wonder they don't know what they are doing Am a stalwart Leaf fan but sometimes??????? SAM
More Money in Toronto
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 03:17 PM
than they know what to do with it so they donate it to the laughs (oops, I mean the Leafs) in the form of hockey jerseys, advertising and box seats. The biggest joke in Canadian history. HNIC should realize the last part of the four initials in their name is Canada, not and it's not HNIO. Time to branch out HNIC and time to do your job featuring the rest of the Canadian teams.
Montreal Tony
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 03:44 PM
Decades ago, I rechristened HNIC as HNIT(oronto)!! This move is just another nail in their coffin. For years, the CBC has been force-feeding us in Montreal a steady diet of Maple Leaf hockey. Canada's team? Corporate Toronto's team, more like. This bunch of under-performers doesn't even deserve having the Hall of Fame. What an embarassment they are.
Eagles47
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 04:04 PM
Correction: The habs are the most successful and prolific hockey team not the leafs.
Molson bailed out losers
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 04:10 PM
The Montreal Canadiens, Ottawa Senators, or any other Canadian team do not need the T-Blow Make Beleifs to bail them out as the loser who made this post indicated oh shut up Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 03:47 PM. Typical T-Blow jargin, you should pick up a copy of some of the books written about your losers and find out just how close they came to folding. Good for the make beliefs, they charge the most money to see the worse team in the league play, PEOPLE IN T-BLOW ARE SUCKERS AND STUPID. They actually beleive all this centre of universe garbage. The D-list hockey team playing in Canada's dump T-Blow do not call any shots loser, all they do is fatten the Teachers Pension Fund. Idiots like you think they are in control but actually the NHL is laughing at them. Can't wait for the Coyotes to come to southern ontario and cut into the the profits, by then MLSE will have the T-Blow Make Beleifs off CBC and T-Blow losers will have to pay to watch them lose.
MP
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 04:21 PM
Top it all off, why is Toronto always the national game. Last Saturday Kovalev returned to Montreal as the Habs met the Senators. The national Rangers vs Leafs???
Tim in Seattle(formerly Detroit)
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 04:27 PM
Wow. First off, wtf is HNIC doing? I'm a Canucks fan, but I've always cheered for the Leafs in the east. I'd say I can't believe that they would throw their weight around to get one of the most interesting journalists on HNIC, but after the Phoenix/Hamilton fiasco; it's all too easy to believe. Like I said, I've always had a soft spot for the Leafs, but it's starting to harden at this point.
memyselfandI
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 04:27 PM
CBC/HNIC has zero integrity. They cater to the lowest, the Leafs fan. True hockey fans laugh at them heartily because they aren't real hockey fans, just Leafs fans.
Dave
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 04:46 PM
Shirley I admire your dedication to the Leafs, but as you can see from a lot of comments people are fed up with the team,HNIC, Bettman and the league in general for not giving two hoots in hell for the long suffering canadian public since our game was sold to the Americans. Greed is an isidous virus that cares nothing about the host and eventually kills it. I hope not for your sake..
Lyndon
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 04:51 PM
TSN is definitely taking over for HNIC, but as long a Pierre Macguire (spelling?) is there spitting words like "he's just a Monster" and "that's just two minutes for being strong" I'll continue to watch the CBC. Macguire ruins the watching experience with his mouth!
plassterred
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 04:54 PM
Ao were was I? oh yes now I amember. Well everbody got mad becase I wrote under OH SHOT UP above an it tokk me aboot a hour because I write it in long hand frist then tipe it out on here.I been drink ing for ours an I tighter than a nuns girdle so whats the odds? Three is no thing to get exited aboot with those ideas at all.I just wanted to see what else people woul say. It show how reactive people get when you step on their toes. I did it AND YOU DONT LIKE IT. Yeeeeeeeeeeeawhawhaw.
canuck fan
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 05:19 PM
I just feel sorry for Leafs fans...not because the leafs haven't won a cup in over 40 years. Being a canucks fan i'm in no place to comment on that. No matter how much they support and love their team, they will never be legitimate contenders because of the ownership structure. When the team makes so much money no one upstairs cares if they win. Toronton deserves a team with an owner who wants to win not just put a product on the ice. Thats what happens when teachers own hockey teams.
Eagleson
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 05:20 PM
I love Al Stachan and he is missed on After 40 Minutes. Perhaps the Leafs should only watch American news....
re montreal tony
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 05:46 PM
What exactly has YOUR team done in almost two decades, and look at your small team and lack of salary cap room.
Toronto MakeMeLaughs
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 05:48 PM
Leafs/Flames game in Calgary starts @ 5:00 MST time as well. And yet every other Flames, (Oiler's), game on Saturdays' start @ 8:00 MST so we have to sit through a crummy Leafs game. My guess is few fans out East are still awake to watch games in the West. Thank you very little CBC Toronto. ( I do love the city and most of the people though!)
del
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 06:43 PM
I am from Port Huron,Michigan. I am reading these postings and everyone hates Toronto. I lived there 6 years, an attache for an Elecronics Co. It's sad to see but Canadians seem to hate the City. Do you know that you are hating the 5 million people in the City and its Greater Area? It isnt buildings and bus stops and railroad tracks you hate, which are the structure of the city. Its the people you are hating. Are you going to bed tonight saying I hate 5 million People?
Chris
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 07:00 PM
Wonder why the CBC broadcastes more Leaves games on HNIC than any other team year in year out even though the Leaves have not made the playoffs for decades.Pressure from the LEAVES?
Hockey Fan in Spain
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 07:28 PM
Thanks for the controversy, MLSE. I'll be sure to check out Strachan's book. I just can't believe that a such badly managed team not only survives, but thrives under the large fan base. Who would have thought that a team that hasn't made to the playoffs three year in a role would charge a higher price at the current economic condition. I would hate to insult anyone, but if you are a Leafs' fan, you have asked for it. You can count on that I will never be one to cheer for the blue and white. The Leafs suck and enjoy singing the blues about another forty years without Lord Stanley.
Mr. Sarcasm
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 07:39 PM
Yeah, Leafs fans, we are all jealous of you spending hundreds of bucks just to watch your team loose. You have no idea - get over yourselves. Even the enbattled Coyotes would kick your ass any day!
Business
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 08:00 PM
If other teams pulled in as much revenue as the Leafs through ratings and advertising then you all wouldn't be whining. You really want to pay more taxes to prop up the CBC? You want the CBC to deliberately lose money by showing the Sens, Oilers or some other small market team? That's brutal business sense. As for the Habs, Radio Canada shows every Habs game on Saturday night regardless of who is playing. Radio Canada is also CBC and nobody complains about that because it's all in French. Well if you can justify putting the Habs on Radio Canada because Francophones watch it then you can justify showing the Leafs when the majority of English speaking Canada watch it. I live in Calgary and I'd rather watch the Leafs. Stop crying and whining. Seriously; it's bad form.
Re:Mr.Sarcasm
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 08:00 PM
Go see Mr.Spelling. The Leafs aren't loose. but they do LOSE games.
Um
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 08:07 PM
How do the Teachers have any say in hockey operations? Yeah every Friday we have Leaf off ice operations meeting in the staffroom. I can honestly tell you that the only reason Burke made that trade was because the Librarians lobbied hard for Kessel without giving up Kaberle. The Math teachers almost lost their minds because they want Marc Savard. The History teachers took a more moderate stance and want to wait and see what happens but look for them to tell Burke to trade Ian Whyte for a draft pick while he's still hot. Seriously, insinuating that the Leafs are controlled at all by teachers is stupid. Furthermore insinuating that the Leafs shareholders don't care about winning is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. They are spending more than the Salary Cap, they have the highest paid management team and coaching staff in the NHL. If you knew anything about hockey you'd know that teams base their budgets on the regular season so any money they make in the post -season is pure profit. Yeah they sell out every game but if htey sell out in the playoffs the profits from the sales and merchandise sales jack the profits up big time. I defy anybody to prove me wrong by giving me an example of a winning franchise that makes less money than when it was a losing franchise.
strat habber
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 08:11 PM
Good for Al Strachan I hope he sells a jillion copies. I bet he was tired of being shouted down by motormouth Mike anyway.Hey Del people don't hate Torontonians I think we are tired of " Leaf nation" and the special treatment they get from the very biased CBC.
@ BUSINESS
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 08:21 PM
As a habs fan in southern on. I wish I could get the radio canada broadcasts but they cut them 3 or 4 years ago due to budget cuts.They are now on spacialty channel RDS no longer a freebee.
doesnt make sense
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 08:27 PM
I wonder if Leaf haters ever ask themselves why am I really a Leaf hater. It's just a hockey team. Everybody pretends to hate the team, but you can tell by their comments its not the team itself they hate. Its the people of Toronto they hate. 90% of the hate comments are about the Leaf FANS, not the Leafs. Why should anyone want to hate and mock others because of the team they support? A Grade 3 kid can tell that its the people, the fans, they hate. What is the reasoin for this hatred?I hate the Leafs,, I hate their fans, I hate Toronto. Instead of telling people where they are from and extolling the good things about their home-town all they do is spew their hate for Toronto. Never mind where I'm from, I hate Toronto.never mind about my team, I hate the Leafs. Geez it gets sickening listening to all the hate for Toronto.This site is the most hate-filled site on the Internet, and its supposed to be a site where sportsmen gather to share their love of the game, and its full of hate. To all the Toronto-haters, you are commenting about yourself, not Toronto. You are full of hate nad use Toronto as your outlet, pretending that your hate if normal and justified because Toronto is so sick. It is you who are sick., and you come here pretending to post about hockey but really to vent your hate. Your hate shows people what YOU are, not what the city of Toronto is.
Bono
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 08:34 PM
Thanks god for NHL Gamecenter, so i don't have to watch and listen to a bunch of biased idiots of CBC and TSN commentators.
waggie
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 08:39 PM
Go sniff a rats butt.
feelherbum
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 08:50 PM
The rest of Canada is full of rage and jealousy over Toronto because it is the biggest, richest and most prestigious City by a mile, in the country. It is known the world over and famous for so may things, It has sport franchises in every major sport and it is the seat of power for the country, not Ottawa. This is why the country hates Toronto. It is jealousy and petty envy.The rest of Canada, in its Maritime and Prairie isolation, are comparitive manure-holes and it is these manure-holes that the Toronto haters are posting from. Basically the rest of Canada is one big manure-hole and anyone who lives in a manure-hole and cant crawl out will scream up his wrath and curses at the guy sitting in the Golden Chair, which is Toronto, It is as simple as that. The manure-hole dwellers will keep screaming and cursing at us, but we just laugh and throw more manure into the manure-hole.
one cup by luck
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 09:05 PM
Montreal has won 1 cup in 30 years, Philly no cups in35 years, Hawks no cups in 50 yeasrs, Barfalo no cups in 40 years, Vanrunforcouver no cups in 40 years Boston no cups in 32 years Snottawa no cups in 86 years,The last cup Montreal won was by luck and lousy refs. Toronto 41 years, big deal eh?Rangers one cup in 72 years.
City of Cryers
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 09:42 PM
haha Vancouver.
Michael
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 10:00 PM
What's your problem? It seems like Maple Leafs fans are the hockey version of Boston Red Sox fans, always being nasty of other teams, but being nice to their own only. There are only two teams (in my opinion that count), the Montreal Canadiens in hockey, and the New York Yankees in baseball. Any my predicition is that the Yankees will win it all and get their 27th Championship, threby providing Les Canadiens with a chance to win their 25th.
two four of cups
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 10:12 PM
hey "one cup by luck" What about the other 23? LOSER!!!
Bagahamerz
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 10:24 PM
I live 3 hours from Toronto and like the city and have many friends there. As an avid hockey fan I hate the Leafs for providing consistently crappy entertainment who with their territorial crap prevent me from watching the Senators, who admittedly are no powerhouse this year, but significnatly better than the Leafs. I have never been a big Strachan fan either, but his disdain for the Leafs doesn't even compare to the "Homerism" demonstrated yet again last Saturday by Canada's on-air bigot, Don Cherry with his Leaf cufflinks and shirt. I don't believe that most hockey fans hate Toronto, but clearly money talks and Toronto will continue to rule the airwaves, but not the ice. Truly unfair given that the CBC is funded by the taxpayers.
Sens1155
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 10:30 PM
Let's be honest, Strachan is a wanna be Bob Mackenzie, but he doesn't have the brains. As for the Leafs, they haven't been to the Cup finals since 1967 and all of the other Canadian teams have been and their last cup win was a fluke. They were lucky to make the playoffs and wouldn't have made it past the first round if today's setup was in place. I was there in 67, I am glad I am not today.
Wicky from Tecumseh
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 10:59 PM
HNIC, on the public broadcaster, CBC, paid for and by Canadians, with their head office in Hogtown, the centre of the universe. The Leafs, a disgrace to our national game, with wannabee American Ron Wilson and his omnipresent sarcasm, at the helm. I wonder when his buddy the Irishman will can his sorry behind. How is it that Don Cherry can castigate and dehumanize the game's best player, Sidney Crosby, and still be on the air but Strachan gets canned for his picture being on the cover of our freedom of speech. CBC's Scott Moore, former TSN producer,who got to you--Peddie, Burke? Let's keep the token American on Hot Stove Milbury but can the real journalist of the bunch! Al, keep on telling it like it is--CBC--Censorship Broadcasting Corporation.
snottawa snotters
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 11:13 PM
Snotters have not won a cup in 86 years and when playing in the 1920's were the laughing stock of the league, losing games by 15 and 20 goals. Still just asd big a joke. 9000 at a game and would be out of the league if Toronto didnt bail them out every year. Word is that Leaf mgmt. will refure equazlization payments of Snottawa Snotters get any of the money. A loser town who couldnt even keep a CFL team and this bunch of losers will be out within 3-5 years. It is a hick cowtown, a manure-hole and cannot support pro sports teams. Who wasnts to live in that dump? Pro athletes Raptors. Jays. FC, Leafs, Argos. Bills, Marlies, etc, love it in the great city of Toronto. Can you picture these guys living in Snottawa, the snowball of Canada and truly a dump if there ever was one?
strachan a joke
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 11:20 PM
Al Strachan was a big-mouth know-it-all jerk, ignorant and full of crap. Nobody will miss his bullshit. Ron McLean, Cherry's punching bag and boot lick who sits their with that stupid milk-face grin while Cherry belittles him and mocks his stupid moronic statements, telling him to shut up and keep quiet all night. Get rid of the embarrasing geek, what a sop-faced spineless milktoast.
real city
Fri, Oct 23, 09 at 11:31 PM
These hick-twons across Canada, manure-holes and sewer pits. Ever wasnt to live in a REAL city, its Toronto. This is a REAL city, not some backwater village like all the other wannabe jerkoff dumps in the country.
BigTuna
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 01:34 AM
What I find interesting is the article fails to mention that Strachan's been fired from HNIC before. He was fired in 2005 (was that because the Leafs requested it?)When he was re-hired, he was given a warning to stop hijacking the "After 40 Minutes" telecasts. The guy argues with everyone and it's hard to understand what a lot of the guys were saying. I just gave more truth and detailed than the article above did.
You guys don't understand CBC
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 01:55 AM
Ron's job next to Cherry is simple, he has his finger on the killswitch, if he thinks Don's going to go off an super-crazy rant against players of certain ethnicities, he hits it and they have 'technical difficulties' so the station doesn't get sued. Strachan was a lousy analyst and had less hockey sense then the guy who runs the hockey buzz site with the 1.2% accuracy rating on trade rumours. He's not a giant loss for HNIC, although it is suspicious about his firing. As for Montreal, they have won two cups in my lifetime and I am less than 30 years old to the idiot who forgets the 86 win, and they've won a total of 10 Stanley Cups since the last one the Maple Leafs won so shove it. Montrealers are not jealous of Toronto, neither are Calgarians, Edmontonians, Vancouverites, Maritimers or anyone ELSE. Not Canada's team by a long shot, because they do nothing but EMBARASS Canada every single year. Proud to be a Montrealer right here and the not-so-great Burke will be run out of town soon enough because he really isn't the most brilliant mind among all hockey GMs, that's Ken Holland in Detroit and he's not half the hockey mind he is.
RE: JOE IN CALGARY
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 06:05 AM
HEY JOE, the Leafs got EVERY TEAM SWEATING, wondering if they will be the first ones to loose to the Leafs. GUESS WHAT, I got a funny feeling it's going to be the Habs, SO don't play your sieve Price
89linden94
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 07:41 AM
Whats all the hoopla.. Who cares. Al Strachen is an idiot and I say good riddance... Now if we can just get TSN to fire that idiot Maguire we'd be on roll. I don't hate Toronto, I love the city, the people.. they have over 5 million so you can't like them all.I don't like Brian Burke or Dave Nonis and I have the NHL Center Ice package so I don't really give a crap if the Leafs are always on CBC! I get to watch my Canucks every night here in the east and this 4 PM EST start is a blessing for me. I don't have to stay up till 10 or 10:30 tonight to watch the game. I'll get to go to bed at 11 tonight instead of 1:30 in the morning. Al Strachen is a douche bag, who cares if he got fired. Nothing to do with free speech and everything to do with idiocy!
flopperstopper38d
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 08:26 AM
All the boo=hooing goddy-goodies crying over Stachanm getting canned, as if they care a damn. Always with the boo-hoo and crying to show what wonderful people they are and how hgood hearted. See look how nice I am Im crying because a guy got fired. What about the other thousands across the land who get pink-slipped or canned? No you wouldnt be able to go om Faceoff and cry about them and show everybody what a wonderful soul you are. Al Strachan, McGuire and that moronic McLean all needed to be fired and hopefully Stachans just the start and the other two pieces of shit will follow.
clear the track
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 08:32 AM
Clear the track, here comes Shack, Eddie the Entertainer is back. Give us back Eddie, Roberts, Wendell, Tiger and Domi and Leafs would be in first place by December.
Mr. D.
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 08:38 AM
Who are these people? Almost all the comments appear to be made by socially immature boys about 10 yrs. old.
feelherbum
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 08:46 AM
Yes those old Leaf toughies would straighten out certasin people in the league who need it. Other toughies for leafs were Orlqand K. and Kordic and of course Dan Maloney. Geez di I ever long for the old days. These guys today are pathetic, management dont give a shyte about winning, only the fuggin bottm line.
Trapped in T.O.
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 09:33 AM
As a native Montrealer who has been trapped in T.O. for 15 years now, I can't help but laugh at the comments of the various NHL Canadian team city dwellers spewed on this site. Why hate the Leafs? They are just an insignificant corporate unit that poses no threat to your home town heroes. And probably never will. I say embrace them, encourage them to pursue their inept ways (which would include big-brothering all forms of national media coverage based in the t dot), and revel in their ongoing descent into further mediocrity! Despite being a lifelong Habs fan, witness to 10 Stanley cup wins in my 42 years of existence, I must admit that I've tried and tried to warm up to the Leafs (hey, I live here now) but they have given me ZERO opportunity to do so. I honestly don't see that changing under Mr Burke's watch (a Rolex no doubt) or the laughable corporate guidance of the Teachers fund and the grocery guy. na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goooood - bye!
Spruce Grove K
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 09:58 AM
What other sport besides the NHL has its consistently worst team of all time act as its flagship on broadcasts? Another reason why the NHL will stay where it is with the major pro sports
Lost Hab in TO
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 11:38 AM
What do the Leafs and the Titanic have in common? A: They both look good until they hit the ice. What's the difference between the Toronto Maple Leafs and a cigarette vending machine? A: The vending machine has Players! What do the Toronto Maple Leafs and whales have in common? A: They both get totally confused when surrounded by ice. Why are the Toronto Maple Leafs like Canada Post? A: They both wear uniforms and don't deliver! Why doesn't Hamilton have an NHL team? A: Because then Toronto would want one.... What do the Toronto Maple Leafs, Toronto Argonauts and the Toronto Blue Jays all have in common besides being based in Toronto ? A. None of them can play hockey. What do you call 30 millionaires around a TV watching the Stanley Cup Playoffs? A. The Toronto Maple Leafs. What do the Toronto Maple Leafs and Billy Graham have in common? A. They both can make 20,000 people stand up and yell 'Jesus Christ'. How do you keep the Toronto Maple Leafs out of your yard? A. Put up a goal net. What do you call a Toronto Maple Leaf with a Stanley Cup ring? A. A thief. What do the Toronto Maple Leafs and possums have in common? A. Both play dead at home and get killed on the road. How many Toronto Maple Leafs does it take to win a Stanley Cup? A. Nobody knows ... And we may never find out.
Lost Hab in TO
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 11:40 AM
A guy says to the bartender, "Can my dog and I watch the Toronto Maple Leafs hockey game here? My cable is out, and my dog and I always watch the game together." The bartender replies, "Normally, dogs wouldn't be allowed in my bar, but it's not very busy right now, so you and the dog can have a seat at the end of the bar. But, if there's any trouble with you or the dog, I'll have to ask you to leave." The guy agrees, and he and his dog start watching the game. Pretty soon, the Leafs manage to score a goal and the excited dog jumps up on the bar, barks loudly, does a back flip and runs over to the bartender and gives him a high-five. The bartender says, "Wow, that's pretty cool! What does he do when they win a game ?" The guys answers, "No Idea, I've only had him for 3 years."
Lost Hab in TO
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 11:41 AM
The last time the Maple Leafs won the Stanley Cup most of their fans were in diapers. Coincidentally, the next time they win it those same fans will be back in diapers again!
Stats man
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 11:44 AM
Habnots 1 cup in 30 years, Buffalo no cups in 40 years, Toronto no cups in 41 years.,Vancouver no cups in 40 years,Boston no cups in 32 years, Philly mo cups in 35 years, Chicago no cups in 50 years, Ottawa no cups in 86 years. Every loser that comes on here dumping on Leafs for their drought comes from one of the above cities. Whaddaya think now, ya lifetime losers. Almost all of you were not born when your team last won a cup, if they ever have. 70% of the teams in the NHL have never won a cup...yours is no doubt one of them. It shows the ignorance about hockey of those haters who come on here to post, they know nothing of the history of the game. They sick psychos full of hate and come on here to spew their envy and jealousy against Leafs, disregarding the real problem....their psychosis and ignirance.
Rehab Habnots
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 11:50 AM
The other day a writer asked Carey Price "what team in the NHL gives you the most trouble"? Price said "My own".
habhater
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 11:52 AM
Guy says "what kitchen utensil does Price and Halak remind you of?" Other guy says " a sieve".
heeeee
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 12:05 PM
It nust be an awful thing to be a Montreal fan in this day and age. When you think of the past great teams they had, winning all those cups because they had exclusive rights to all playerrs in Quebec as well as the right to anywhere else in Canada.And then to have to watch, listen and read about the sorry bunch they throw sweaters on today, it nmust truly hurt.I nefer dod like frenchies or their Ontario fans, who are band-wagoners , but I do feel sorry for them now. The team is a rotted skeleton of the teams of the past, geez it must be a bastard to have to live with that. Watching them struggling up and down the ice , eyes crossed, biting their lolling-out tongues, arms falailing, falling down, etc etc etc. I would not want to be in their shoes. Why on earth would anyone support this bunch of hopeless wannabes, with a retarded GM and a coach that couldnt run the school tiddley-wink team. Just shows how some love to be punished, like the sadd-masochist sex perverts. Oh weell. have a nice time supporting the losers, its your life.
Lost Hab in TO
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 12:30 PM
Hey Heee, Talking again about the Laffs, were you? Typical Laff fan - no class from a no class city. I bet all my TO friends a 2-4 of Canadian every year that the Habs will win the Cup before the Laffs ever will. No takers so far. Enough said.
Lost Hab in TO
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 12:34 PM
Hey statsman, Habs won the Cup in 86 & 93. Wake up and get out of your beer glass. Too bad the Coyotees did not make it to Hamilton (yet). The way they are playing without Gretzky, they will easily win the Cup before the Laffs. Bet that hurts.
Lost Hab in TO
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 12:36 PM
Hey Rehab Habnots & Habhater, Is that the best you've got? I always said that the Laffs made for better joke material. Now, go do your homework before Mommy grounds you.
note to Heeeeeeeeeee
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 12:57 PM
Beautiful post, bro, and right at the of it.These idiots today who cheer for Rehabs are Retards. Have to be. The old time fans knew their hockey and never masde excuses for losing because they never had to. Today the Retarded Rehab "fans" have to dream up excused from day to day, they blame the gm, the coach, the goalie, when the fact is the whole team is a sorry excuse for a Montreal Canadiens team. These hopeless bums wouldnt have cut it as jock strap washers. Who knows why anyone would want this bunch of losers when theres so many good teams, like Leafs, tio cheer for. As you say, let them rot in their own stinking juice, its their wasted lifes, not ours.
immortal words
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 01:01 PM
A great man once penned these immortal words : "No pain in the world can match that which a man suffers when that which he loves is unworthy of his love" In all the annals of time is there a better description of the Montreal Rehab Habnots and their sorry fans?
a weekend in Montreal
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 01:14 PM
Its Saturday night. The fiddle music is being supplied by hillbillies from Point- aux Tremble. The party-goers,their plaid shirts hanging out of their jeans, are dancing gaily as they swill moonshine and homebrew brought in from the illegal stills in the Eastern Townships. The fiddle music reaches a crescendo ty drown out the moans of despair as Leafs score yet another goal on some sieve in the Rehab nets.A while later a collective moan escapes the partiers as the final result shows yet another Rehab loss. The party id starting to break up now as the revellers all want to go homea and cry themself to sleep over the 9th loss in the last ten games. Some stay over though and on Sunday morning, when they wake up half naked on the floor, the QPP breaks in and carts them off to jail, then let them go home. Monday morning those who have a job (most just drink and smoke all day and live on welfare handouts from the rest of the country's taxpayers, as usual)stagger off to work then go home and start in to the swill again to numb the boredom of life in Montreal and the pain of the loser hockey team they stubbornly keep cheering for. This is a weekend in wonderful Montreal. I should know. I live here.
@ lost hab i n to
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 01:19 PM
Is that better?
kermode
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 01:25 PM
Hockey night in Toronto? CBC needs to realize there are other Canadian teams more worthy of the Leafs for television viewers.
re kermose
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 01:32 PM
CBC has to braodcast what they know everyone wants to watch. Everyone wants to watch Canada's Team, so they broadcast Leafs. The advertisers wont pay unless the games broadcast are Leaf games. They know nobody wants to watch the Rehabs, or Vanny or Claagary or Edmonton or Snottawa, so they have to show the one team EVERONE wants to watch, and that one team is Canada's team, the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Lost Hab in TO
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 02:09 PM
Guys, I'm 59, and I saw all the great Hab teams play in the 50s, 60s, 70s & the 80s. They had class on & off the ice. The Laffs specialized in goon hockey because that's the only way that Punch Imlach, Happy Hal Ballard and Stafford Smyth could compete with the Habs. The Habs are rebuiulding this year. You know what that is - the Laffs have been doing it non-stop for 40 years. However, the new (and admittedly) talent-challenged Habs have now won 4 games as Saturday morning and the Laffs are still goons. I'm glad you have Komiserik now. How many goals has that jerk caused by sitting in the box this year? Without Markov at his side, Komiserik's lack of talent and self control shows. And Brian Burke thinks this is a good plan for the future. Non, mes amis, the blue & white are doomed to the blues. At least the Habs can get back to back wins with the limited talent that they have. For your sake, I hope a Laff win streak is more than 1 game, if they get that.
Lost Hab in TO
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 02:20 PM
@ Weekend in Montreal, Sounds like your relatives from Toronto were visiting you in Montreal again. Shame on you for teasing the Pequists in the East End like that. They are tormented enough living in Canada without les maudut anglais making fun of them. I lived in the West end, never went east of St Lawrence Boul. Much like people in Mississauga never got to Scarberia. And the Habs have already won in the AC Centre this year. Too bad the Laffs didn't show up.
Sean
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 02:31 PM
Habs have 3 cups in 30 yrs., not 1, and a single incident of child molestation. Leaves have 0 in 42 yrs. and counting.
Viridel
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 02:34 PM
Now, I'm no Strachan fan... But this is really sickening... F__king Hockey Night in Toronto and Toronto Sports Network (TSN).
Lost Hab in TO
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 02:42 PM
It's 2:40 PM and I just heard a great sucking sound coming from out West. That's it! The Laffs just hit the ice for their game day practice.
re weekend in montreal
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 02:59 PM
Oh I love it. Freakin priceless man. I used to live in that shyte-hole Montreal. Nothing to do there, snow up to your arse in early autumn to May or easrly JUne. ccouldnt wait to get out.No professional teams to watch like they have in Toronto, baseball, soccer, basketball, hockey, NHL, AHL. Dip-stick Montreal had nothing. As alls they do is drink beer and swear in French. The only good thing going in to Toronto from Montreal is an empty bus.!
Lost Hab in TO
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 03:05 PM
Like I said, TO is a no class town. Thanks for proving me right. Now crawl back into your hole. By the way, hope you have cable down there so you can watch the Laffs get clobbered tonight. Go Nucks!
lost hab in to
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 03:08 PM
59, eh? Is that your age or your IQ ? Oh, it's both?. OK. Listen,grandpapa, why not be a good old man and go change your senility diaper an quit comin on here tryin to match wits with someone half your age who lives in today, not 50 years ago when Tocket Richard was getting suspended because he hated a team-mate so much he smashed an opposing player over the head with two different sticks, from behind, and put him in hospital for 7 weeks. Go sweep a street or something and keep your ancient toothless mouth to yourself.
Lost Hab in TO
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 03:10 PM
Flash!! The Laffs are getting the jersey ready for the first overall pick in the June 2010 draft. The number on the back will be 0 (read "ZERO:) to match the number of Laff wins this season. LOL
Lost Hab in TO
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 03:23 PM
I'm a P. Eng, own my own business, drive a Mercedes, live in Arizona in the winter (haven't seen snow in 6 years)and I get the best seats in Coyotee-ville for $25 to $82. Free parking too! Beers are $4 and a sandwich is $5. My IQ is miles ahead of any of you half-wit 30 year olds. It's amazing how a few words can get you cry babies going. No joy in Laff land. Mon vieux, time to grow up and be a man.
Lost Hab in TO
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 04:05 PM
Hey guys, where are you?? Time for your afternoon nap or did Mommy send you to the naughty corner?? When the Laffs pass the Habs in the standings, do come back.
lost hab
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 04:08 PM
So a P. Eng who owns his own business, drives a Mercedes, lives in Arizona, is 59 years old and has to come on here with childish barbs back and forth with "half-wit 30 year olds"? Sorry, old man. I really feel sorry for you. Going to try my best not to be the bitter old failure you became> But , you know, theres still time to get a life. Good luck with that.By the way, your postings made me think of you as being closer to 9 than 59.
loser lost hab
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 04:10 PM
Dont feel bad. All Rehab fans are lost, not just you.
Lost Hab in TO
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 04:10 PM
Rocket Richard was # 9. Thanks man!
hey lost hab in to
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 04:16 PM
I'm a brain Surgeon,drive a Lambo, have my own clinic, live on the French Riviera in the summer,and have the best seats to Real Madrid AND Manchester U.I also holiday with Mick Jagger and Elton.
Lost Hab in TO
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 04:19 PM
Hey brain surgeon, that's great. The Laff could sure use your help.
Lost Hab in TO
Sat, Oct 24, 09 at 04:24 PM
Brain surgeon, I have seen Man U play at Trafford Park many times. Great team with a great tradition, just like the Habs.
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